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It is quite simple....would you throw your baby into a burning furnace to the God Moloch, so your crops would grow and you would be healthy?

No?

Then you wouldn't sacrifice one child's life so you can live better.

Of course, I reserve the right to change my mind if Fauci, instead of a baby, could be tossed into a furnace.

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Yup. Get the fork and knife and put grandma in the pizza oven....

Im very mindful that there are certain things that seem ingrained in us humans..fear of snakes..and cannabalusm... remember kuru which came from eating grandmas brain...thank you papua new guinea! I think that was why that young rockefeller guy was never found...

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Unfortunately there is nothing in Fauxi that can help crops grow or make us healthy. His smoke would probably spread more death and destruction.

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I believe we have the intelligence to come up with other ways that done include using humans.

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I would never have a vaccine regardless of what is claimed or not claimed to be in it.

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Lee, is there lists anywhere of what is being used for what? I know that fetal cells are often disguised as an ingredient in vaccines (like c38 or something), but when it is not akin to baby sacrifice, being included in what is consumed...if it is used in the procduction of foods etc. it kinda reminds me of canniblism, including eating brains/kuru....ick ick ick.

I think I could even give up potato chips if I knew. I am certainly disgusted at cricket flour as an ingredient, but I'm afraid they will change that ingredient to one less descriptive as well. Ick. not eating chitins full of parasites

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To better answer the poll, I think the word "knowingly," should be added. As far as I know there is no testing of food or beverage completed on fetal cell lines. I, in all good conscience, would avoid such items. I would also avoid all drugs using or tested on these lines, IF the knowledge of such was out in the public perview.

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So, what's a fetal cell? A cell taken from an ABORTED baby is multiplied into many cells of the same kind. These can be grown indefinitely and further multiplied, creating lines of cells that are sometimes used for science experiments, even after being frozen and stored for years. THE PROCESS STARTS WITH AN ABORTION SO THE ANSWER IS "NO." It would seem possible that they could use cells from miscarriages and stillbirths. A miscarriage is usually defined as loss of a baby before the 20th week of pregnancy . . . and a stillbirth is loss of a baby at or after 20 weeks of pregnancy. PUTTING THEM IN A VACCINE? Hell no. But some people get vaccinated against their will.

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Here is an additional link. Note this link does not consider the new flu shots that are in the making and in clinical trials. Some of the proposed flu shots use mRNA technology.

https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-ingredients/fetal-tissues

It is interesting that we use the term "flu shot" regularly, but not "flu vaccine". I bet the popularity of this new terminology will emerge.

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A fetus is defined up to eight weeks after conception. I cannot say with certainty the exact source of fetal cells. I have not researched it. It may depend on the company. Fetal cells are different from stem cells though. For the J&J covid shot, human retinal cells were used to grow viruses in labs.

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I know..the immortal life of Henrietta Lacks. Adult stem cells and human retinal cells, along with humanized mice....I think it is time to really call a halt to all this (including cricket flour) until we get some ethical guildelines....and make sure we don't accidentally discover that in future there is something new we trip over, like we tripped over prions, and Cruezfeldt Jacob disease from feeding ground up animals to cows....

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Absolutely!

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Exactly, and they are even in the end product (as residues, as it would be far too costly to completely eliminate them). You can learn that if you read the EMA assessment reports for the J&J vaccine.

Astra Zeneca also used human cell lines (HEK Human Embryonic Kidney cells), by the way genetically modified. They too are in the end product as impurities.

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No, it is not possible to use cell lines derived from stillbirths. The organs have to be "lebendfrisch" - I do not know the term in English, but it means the unborn baby has to be alive when the organs are taken from their bodies. Miscarriages are also no source for the industry because preparations have to be made to keep the baby alive.

Digging deeper into the whole thing is unbearable.

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Whew!! Thanks for the clarification. Side comment: I've been noticing how humanity has had (and will have) to deal with "all the miracles of modern science" being enforced upon us. Hopefully solutions will unfold as we fight the good fight.

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No. I would not allow a product produced or tested using feral cell lines or that l did not know with certainty what was in it. Blind faith is dangerous . Even faith or devotion is dangerous unless it brings benefit to your life.

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Not if I know about it. I’ve just learned about this in past few years.

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https://www.cbruk.org/what_the_hek about the use of fetal cell lines in the "vaccines".

Unbearable.

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I voted No, but it's more like Not willingly if the product label discloses the ingredients

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Yes, I'd eat something tested. Sounds like a benefit.

As a 'vaccine'? No, my view of vaccines, which was a general state of being unimpressed and is now vastly worse, precludes any such stuff, with the exception of rabies. I'd get the rabies shot, that's about it.

As to the unasked question, no I'm not squeamish about cells that, far, far away, a long, long time ago, were harvested from an abortion. Meh.

The abortion happened anyway; it's not like some poor lass were pinned down and forced to abort, because someone else wanted some cells (and frankly, even if such an event were the case it's not a convincing reason to reject food or medicine today).

Should other people have the right to refuse a product on the basis of an abortion being involved in the past?

F*** yeah.

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Fetal not feral

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I answered no such product exists because so many products do it's increasingly difficult to know. So in answer to the second question would I inject such products the answer is hell no. I have to eat. I don't have to inject anything into myself.

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